Are there limits to the ways in which embryos may be treated?

Bonnie Steinbock who is a professor of philosophy at Albany and specialist in bioethics, she seems to understand well in embryonic stem cell research in pro and cons. on her esssay "Respect for Human Embryo", she was debating embryos in moral valuve and we have to carefully evaluated for sientific stem cell research technology for only for reasonably benefit for the human life in necessity.

There are people who has heavey weight in moral values in embryos as much as " deserves special respect" and "serious moral consideratiopn as a developing form of human life(p:668). the controversy as Jhon Robertson describes "If the embryo has no rights or interest , how can it be owed special respect? on other hand, if embryo is owed special respect, is it not then a holder of rights, including the right not to be the subject of research? What does 'special respect' mean(p:668&669)." It is hard to make a line how much moral value in embryos even though it can be pre implatation inform of human life.

Steinbock argues that embryo do not have interests or welfare of their own and it is impossible to show them serious moral consideration. There are many left over tens of thousand of embryos in infertility clinic's freezer in the United States that can not be useing for the Invitro fertilization(IVF) for the infertility women due to infertility clinic has to use freshly saved embryos for the fertility purpose.

We have to answer the questions that is it moral ethically right or wrong that these left over embryos keep in freezer forever or distroy them or sientists can use them as their reseach project for the cure for the serious diseases as a parkinsons diseas, spinal cord injuries, severely burned patients, bone marrow transplant or any other serioues diseases. so far stemcell research technology knows some of knowldges that blastcytes(few cells differentiated from embryo in befoer 5 days)can be injected to ill site of human body with minimal rejection or none rejection from human body to regerate new fresh cells.

I will be add little more later soon.











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Addressing the Potential for Human Life

I would like to know, was the Ryan article a direct response to Steinbock’s? It was obviously a response to a Steinbock article, but was it the article we read? If it was, I believe that the editor of this collection did us a disservice. Ryan directly addresses a point raised by Steinbock that was not in the Steinbock article. A point I believed was missing and weakened Steinbock’s argument.

Steinbock wrote, “Just as disrespect for dead bodies can strike at our respect for living human persons, so, too, I want to suggest, an inappropriate treatment or use of embryos. Embryos, as much as dead bodies, are a ‘potent symbol of human life’ and for that reason have moral value and deserve respect, even though they lack interests, rights, and (therefore) moral status.”

I took issue with Steinbock’s casual dismissal of embryos as mere symbols of human life, “as much as dead bodies.” Her use of the example is, understandably, to answer the paradox of embryos deserving special respect, yet holding no rights, and it provides a reasonable example of an instance where a thing may not have any moral status, yet still have moral value. It deserves respect, however has no rights.

And, yes, that is a wonderful example to illustrate her point that it is, indeed, possible to give special respect to a thing while (contradictorily) that same thing has no rights. However, Steinbock does not address an embryo’s potential for life.

While it is a useful example to prove that such conditions exist, her point only addresses the possibility of such conditions existing. While the conditions exist, do embryos fall into that category? She continues on to describe what giving respect to human embryos consists of and addresses concerns raised regarding the question of what should be done with embryos no longer needed or wanted for IVF, but assumes that it is a given that embryos have no rights, yet are due special respect without addressing an embryo's potential for life.

Then, while reading the Ryan article, Ryan provides Steinbock’s line of reasoning regarding an embryo’s potential for life. “Human embryos have the potential to develop into ‘the kind of being that will have interests,’ but, lacking conscious awareness, embryos and even presentient fetuses lack interests of their own; that is, they exist – at this stage – as the sort of being ‘to whom nothing at all can possibly matter . . .’” The argument continues to conclude that sentience is the necessary condition for moral standing.

Ryan’s direct and impressive criticism of this logic verbalized the issues I took with Steinbock’s dismissal of the potential of life (and many more than I briefly considered). But does Steinbock address the argument that potential persons are more than just symbols? Was it simply not quoted, and, if so, is there more to that argument than that briefly quoted by Ryan?

As one last aside, Ryan exhaustively addressed her moral argument differentiating between embryos created for scientific research and those for reproductive intentions, but I think she asks a basic question that I believe deserves more consideration from a different angle. “What are we doing when we fertilize in vitro . . .”? Which made me wonder, do all people have a right to reproduce? Is it a right?

That question has more to do with reproductive freedom we addressed last week. I guess I’m still debating whether or not it is a right, and if it is, why? Why does every human have a right to reproduce?

My two Cents...

Sorry guys.... This started out as a response to a posting but since it got a little long I am psting it alone.

I am still wondering how the argument in favor of cloning is so easily passed. Who exactly is in the position to declare that they should be cloned? Who decides "I am of such great talent and genius there should be two of me!" Those in positions of great power and wealth right? Now then, what are the characteristics of those in such powerful positions? Overall as you look at the power players in the world's arena, are they compassionate, sincere humanitarians? Or are they business minded self-serving people who gain their status on the backs of others.
On the other hand, say we leave it up to the public to decide who should be cloned. Well how long before a minority "genius" is cloned? Hell it took 40+ years to get a biracial president.
It is up to the population to decide where their priorities lie. Does diversity and uniqueness tip the scale to one side more than scientific advancement and our own selfish need to hold on to something that is gone. For me it does. I wouldn't consider risking the vast pool of differences in cultures, ideas and the beauty found in the many people that make up the world for anything... even granting a infertile couple a child. Just not worth it.
Consider this, about 6 years ago farmers were given a new type of corn. This type of corn needed very little pesticide and yielded almost double the crop. Transgenic maize or biotech corn was sold by Monsanto whose corporate office is right here in St. Louis. Today this corn is found everywhere cereal, chips, corn syrup, taco shells etc. the list goes on and on. Its long term effects are unclear but ah well. Hopefully we won’t become allergic to it as doctors predict.
Then you have the farmers who choose to grow organic crops. No pesticides or growth enhancing chemicals are used for their corn. As long as the farmers have a choice on what to grow and the consumer has a choice in what they buy its all good right?
No, that has not been the case. Since corn is easily pollinated by the wind the spores are traveling… fast! Farmers once certified as organic who sold their harvest for $2.75 a lb are being stripped of their organic seal. There FDA comes around and tests to see if you are using biotech products. Organic farmers who never used those products are testing positive. The price of their corn drops to less than $1. Did you know there is a place in Mexico where every species of corn is kept? It is like the world’s insurance. If there is a flood or outbreak of some kind that kills your corn crop you go there to replenish it. Recently, they found the BT corn had infiltrated the crops. Changing the corn slowly but surely to all be the same. There is nothing anyone could do to stop it. Scientist made the choice. Are you making the connection here? Seriously.
Furthermore since the product is patented by Monsanto they know who it is sold to and when. You sign a contract stating you will not replant the seed next year. You must only buy from them and there is a termination gene that can be introduced that wipes out the entire crop for those who violate the contract.
If this sounds at all worrisome to you, you may want to think about human cloning a little more critically. It’s not science fiction people it’s science.

Virtue Ethics Quiz

First: There are four excellent posts below on Dan Brock's "Cloning Human Beings" article, so if you haven't yet, you should read them and join the discussion.

Second: Since some of you couldn't make it to class last Wednesday, it's only fair to warn everyone that the quiz on virtue ethics has been postponed to this week. Study hard!

The Expectation with which a Cloned Child is Born

Dan Brock outlines and discusses the relevant moral considerations of human cloning.  Some of the considerations support human cloning; others do not. 

One of the relevant issues that Brock does not adequately cover is the circumstances under which parents might choose to produce a clone of their child and the possibility of unjustness that this might introduce.

Suppose the parents of a deceased child decided to produce a clone of that child.  The original child is dead; hence, the parents would not be treating the cloned twin as a mere means in any straightforward manner (they are not producing a clone to get bone marrow from the later twin, for instance).  Yet, it would seem that the parents have decided to produce a clone of the original child in order to assuage and compensate for their own feeling of loss.  The later twin is borne not out of the parent’s wish to have a child per se, but of the wish to have a twin that resembles the dead child hoping that this will allay their deep sense of loss.  Giving birth to child, in this case, is not an act strictly of procreation but of compensation.  The motive is different; and when the motive of an action is different, the moral worth of the action likely differs.

Furthermore, genetic determinism—roughly, the view that two persons with identical genetic make-up will grow up to be largely identical in appearance and demeanor—is false.  Human development is not only a matter of “nature”, but of “nurture.”  There is great likelihood that the cloned twin will develop in vastly different ways from the original, now dead, child that the parents so loved and wished to replicate.  In the case of the cloned twin, a part of the parents caring attitude toward the cloned child seem to have its roots in the parent’s expectation that the clone will grow up to replicate the characteristics of the original child.  Yet, given the falsehood of genetic determinism, it is highly unlikely that the cloned child will ever replicate all the characteristics of the original child that the parents favored.  The failure to do so will result in a disappointment for the parents.  It is questionable whether the parents will be able to continue to love the cloned child in the same way, if it turned out that due to environmental factors, the cloned child turned out to be very different from the original child they wished to preserve.

This possibility further suggests that the cloned twin will forever have to live in the shadows of his original, dead, sibling. 

Every cloned child is born with a massive burden of expectation on his shoulders that a non-cloned child does not have.  This is because in producing a clone, the producer is always motivated by a motive that is not just the longing for a child.  Perhaps the genetic clone of Einstein is born with the weight of an expectation to be intellectually brilliant; but what is clear is that the cloned twin of a dead child is born with the hopes of his parents to grow up to be like the dead sibling. 

The cloned child may be a genetically identical to the original child; but the cloned child is born with a much greater weight on his shoulders than the original child.  

Huxley Realized

Sadly, Dan Brock focused “principally with cloning by nuclear transfer, which permits cloning of an adult, not cloning by embryo splitting.” Based on recent current events, a little foresight would have allowed his article to directly relate to 2009. However, as he admits, “some of the issues apply to both” so copying a few of his points regarding nuclear transfer and applying them to embryo splitting will allow a discussion regarding Barack Obama’s March 9th Executive Order “Removing Barriers to Responsible Scientific Research Involving Human Stem Cells.”

(I’ve attached links at the bottom of this post for both the Executive Order as well as the Presidential Memorandum).

In the Presidential Memorandum, President Obama states, “we will ensure that our government never opens the door to the use of cloning for human reproduction. It is dangerous, profoundly wrong, and has no place in our society, or any society.” The obvious issue is that the executive office only shut the door on cloning used for “human reproduction,” not all “human cloning.”

What exactly defines “cloning for human reproduction?” Reconsidering my original dismay at Brock having focused solely on nuclear transfer, following guidelines set forth by the new administration, is it not conceivable to legal clone an adult human as long as it is not for the purpose of human reproduction, that being, the implantation and gestation of the second twin embryo?

I am by no means any sort of expert regarding this order nor the science behind it, however it seems as though the legal door is open for a wide variety of ethical issues to come into play, specifically, the use of human clones as replacement body parts. Brook addressed human cloning in order to obtain “organs or tissues for transplantation” and refuted the morally reprehensibility of it because the cloned twin would be both a means to save a previous child’s life and an ends by “being loved and valued for its own sake” (page 635).

However, based on the order passed by President Obama, the cloned twin could only be legally cloned as a means, not as an ends in and of itself, since cloning is only illegal when done so for “human reproduction.” Is the term "cloning for human reproduction" so easily subverted?

The administration has not yet written the necessary additional regulations defining the executive order regarding stem cell research and the passing line regarding cloning; however, to the casual observer it appears as though there is quite a hole by specifically addressing cloning in regards to solely human reproduction.


Presidential Memorandum

Executive Order

Is Human Cloning Still a Current Issue?

In his article, “Cloning Human Beings: an Assessment of the Ethical Issues Pro and Con”, written shortly after the infamous cloned sheep, Dolly, was “produced” in 1997, Dan Brock delves into the moral issues involved in human cloning. When the news of the first successful cloning came out, many people quickly condemned it as a violation of moral rights and “ethically unacceptable”. Brock begins his article with analyzing this particular response, stating that many of the individuals condemning cloning were doing so from an emotional, or relativistic, standpoint and although it is incorrect to base moral reasoning from such a position, he states that the reason why the issue of cloning elicits such a response must be clarified and understood in order to come to a conclusion on whether Human cloning is morally justifiable in today’s society.

First, Brock investigates the argument for human cloning. He suggests that the right to clone oneself successfully falls under an individual’s moral right of reproductive freedom, especially if this is the only way this individual can successfully reproduce. After identifying what moral right is at stake with the right to clone oneself, Brock outlines the possible benefits to individuals and society:

1. It would allow a new means in a way to relieve infertility, especially if other infertility technologies were not an option.
2. It would enable couples who may have a genetically transferrable disease the ability to have a biological related child from at least from one of the partners.
3. The cloning of a “later twin” would allow an individual the ability to obtain needed organs or tissues for transplantation.
4. It would allow an individual to clone another of significant meaning to them, such as a lost loved one.
5. It would enable duplication of individuals with great talent and genius.
6. It would allow for important advances in scientific research.

Brock ends his argument for Human Cloning by stating that although there is no great benefit to human cloning, a case can be made for cloning through the premise of protecting the moral right to reproductive freedom.


Brock continues his article by turning his attention to the argument against human cloning using the same format. He first identifies what moral rights are at stake if human cloning was legal in society, focusing on “the right to an open future”, meaning the moral right of a “later twin” to decide their own fate. Brock emphasizes that this “right to an open future” is not based in the reality of the situation but in the later twin’s perception of their future. If the later twin perceives their fate to be decided due to the earlier twin’s past life decisions then their moral right to decide their own future is compromised and is therefore morally wrong.

Specific harms due to Human Cloning in society are then outlines as follows:

1. The psychological stress to the later twin. Again this is dealing with the perceived loss of control of the later twin rather than the reality of the situation.
2. Risks to the cloned individual, such as trial and error, failed attempts at cloning and premature death of cloned individual.
3. Cloning would lessen the intrinsic worth of a human being and diminish respect for life.
4. Cloning would divert resources from other important societal and medical needs.
5. Cloning might be used for commercial interest for financial gain.
6. Clones could be used by government or others for immoral and exploitative purposes.
7. Widespread use of Cloning would drastically reduce genetic diversity and our ability to adapt to our environment.

Through disproving most of the forementioned benefits and harms in his article, Brock concludes that the pros and cons of human cloning are “sufficiently balanced”; cloning is not a central component to reproductive rights therefore not necessarily morally justified. Conversely, cloning does not seem to violate any particular moral right. Futhermore, even though cloning is capable of causing significant harm to individuals and society, these harms are speculative and does not warrant prohibition of human cloning.

As I was reading through the article, I could not help from feeling that although Brock made some very good points on both sides of the cloning issue that the topic is extremely out of date in the science/medical field. Since 1997, major advances in stem cell research have been made, making it more highly more likely that organs will be grown in labs than in human clones and the need to grow a whole genetic copy of an individual is no longer necessary. Although there may be a small percentage of clones made for privately funded research or, of course, unless all of a sudden we need a clone army, I really believe the scientific community has surpassed and dismissed this technology. But does this fact make the topic any less morally important? No, I think the benefits and harms outlined by Brock in this article could be tailored to such issues as stem cell and embryo splitting and could make a strong point for either side of this issue. I just found myself not as concerned with the topic as perhaps I might have been 10 years ago when it was first presented. Does it seem as outdated a topic to you?

I was also wondering while reading the article why the moral issue of equality was not brought up by Brock. Cloning yourself would be so expensive that it would only be available to a few wealthy individuals, which according to some moral theories is morally unjust as it limits equal opportunity, so therefore would it matter if the practice is unjust, isn’t it is unjust first and foremost in its unequal distribution?

In any case, I think the overall problem Brock faced in this article and we, as a society, face with any of these growing scientific technologies is the vast uncertainty of their effects of individual and societal moral rights. We will not know until they are put to the test and by then would it too late or could we fix it?

Is Human Cloning really THAT bad??

Seeing as how I will not have internet access during the upcoming week, I decided to blog on this article even though I am not an assigned blog leader. I had to do it for two reasons: one, an increase in my comment grade (!) and two because of how excited I got while reading this article . I have taken many classes in genetics and human heredity where I was previously able to formulate my own decision regarding human cloning. To be honest, I pretty much only saw negatives in moving forward with the use of humans in cloning. Somatic cell nuclear transfer is a highly controversial technology, with reason, and it is terrifying to think of how things could be if this technology was not severely restricted.


I believe that Dan Brock did an excellent job highlighting the pros and cons of cloning. His arguments for cloning were so convincing that it was difficult for me to see the pros and cons as being equal as he had believed. The view of seeing human cloning as just an extension of a reproductive right was quite clever. In denying individuals a potentially available service for cloning, it is almost as if we are condemning infertile individuals by not allowing them to maintain a biological connection with their child. Sure other alternatives are available, but if cloning
were the only option, then it seems wrong for us to deny them that right.


I think that the strongest argument made by Brock for cloning was his point that it is not illegal for parents to carry children to term that are known to have a serious genetic defect, yet it is illegal to clone (or select for genetically competent children to be carried to term). Though the parents of the child with the genetic defect are aware of what they will be subjecting their child to, they are able to make that decision for their child and negligently inflict a life of pain and suffering. And for what? How can we permit this to happen?? It almost seems as though we are giving more of a right to the parents than to the child. I will argue that we can’t accurately speculate the wishes of the unborn child, but I am pretty sure that no one chooses to have a serious disease.


I can feel myself ranting, so I should stop. Though Brock brings up amazing pros and cons with cloning, I still believe that cloning is wrong mostly because of the psychological and social distress that it may cause the later twin, or “clone”. It is difficult for me to see that the clone could ever be valued as a whole person, independent of his or her carbon copy, with his or her rights to ignorance and to an open future. To be honest, my disapproval of human cloning is entirely concerned with the rights of the alter twin and not so much of the individual cloned.

Who Is Responsibility Is It?

After reading Pogge and Risse articles several times I was left feeling a little confused due to my lack of understanding from some of the language that was used.(perhaps if they could find a way to dumb it down a little) So I was advised to go to (my new best friend) Wikipedia and find the meaning of some words that I did not understand like the use of "Benchmarks" and "Social institutions" to see if I could clear some of my misunderstandings. (It helped but not enough though) Here are some of the things that I agreed/disagreed with Pogge on:

1. As a person you have a much stronger moral reason to makes sure that you do not harm someone else out of your own negligence than you have to make sure that they are not harmed by causes outside of your control.

I agree with this because you can only control what actions that you have taken and you can only (well should be) held accountable for your own consequences not the actions and consequences of others. For example if someone is hungry and they need food I would with out a doubt supply the food because that is within my control. But, if you choose not to eat the food that is supplied before you I can do nothing because your own negligence is out of my control.

2. ..."One's moral reason to help prevent and mitigate others' medical conditions is stronger when these others are compatriots than when they are foreigners. I reject this belief in regard to medical conditions in whose incidence one is materially involved. "

I disagreed with this point because I would be inclined to help someone regardless of the fact of me having some type of commonality with the person that is in need whether I was materially involved or not. That is like say that I am only going to combat the spread of AIDS/HIV only in Americans because I am American and to boot any patient that is not of American decent with AIDS/HIV. Or I am only going to help a child that got hit by a car only because I was the driver.

As far as the economic institutions ( in regards to both Risse and Pogge) I would have to agree that it does play a major role in the level of poverty that one faces. However, it is not the only contributing factors: like ignorance, apathy, dishonesty, and dependency. And we have come a long way in terms of economic stand point but we need to take it a little bit fether than we have. I feel that if anyone are going to try and combat poverty and the components of poverty then you are going to have to attack it at many different angles in order to get the job done rather than just one angle. Meaning you just can not throw money at the problem and that the answer you have to supply other resources like education, a vital workforce, and healthcare in order to have given a solution.

So are we responsible for combating poverty and poverty based illness outside of our country?

Pogge vs. Risse-- who is right?

While reading the commentary by Pogge, "Responsibilities for Poverty-Related Illnesses", I found myself agreeing with a couple of points that Pogge was making. I believe that he had a point in saying that there is greater moral weight in helping others in instances where we have some kind of material involvement. I agreed with this point only when he mentioned it in the context of helping someone who was hurt directly as a result of our actions. I, however, also felt that he took it too far by saying that persons involved with upholding the economic institutions [those that govern ownership, production, use and exchange of natural resources, goods and services]are materially involved and are thus permitting the medical injustices between rich and poor to continue.


Though it is a known fact that poverty is correlated with overall health, I do believe that is unfair to place the blame entirely on our economic institutions. Pogge did have a point in saying that we as citizens are somewhat responsible for this because we elect the very politicians that shape our economic institutions. Perhaps if we were not selfish and cared more about taking care of less advantaged individuals in our society, we would elect those that would work to eliminate poverty and health deficits. Though there were some good points, I do believe that Pogge's arguments seemed somewhat scattered and as though he was trying to blame anyone and everyone for current health care injustices.


I personally agreed more with the commentary by Risse, "Do we owe the Global Poor Assistance or Rectification" which basically credited economic institutions and the global order with considerable improvements over the last 200 years. Pogge seemed to focus more on his negative perceptions of the global order, while Risse focused on all the good that it has done for most, if not all, societies.

Over the last 200 years, there have been vast improvements in medical advancements, life expectancy, literacy rates, per capita income and infant mortality rates. I believe that this is a fact that should not be ignored when questioning whether or not our health care system is "unfair". Though our current health care system is far from perfect, I believe that it is unfair to blame the global order for this problem. I agree with Pogge in that we should feel some moral weight in trying to resolve this problem, but I also agree with Risse in that we need to realize that progress is being made.

An Economist’s Critique of Pogge

I am writing this objection to Pogge’s argument without yet having read Risse’s article, because I saw in Risse’s first paragraph that he too is advancing an objection and I wanted to try to come up with my own ideas.

Pogge’s essential argument combines two theses:

First, Pogge says that our moral reason to prevent particular medical diseases is not only based on “distributional factors,” but also on how we are related to the medical conditions. That is, we have a stronger moral responsibility to mitigate a disease that we are the cause of than one that is outside of our control.

Second, Pogge argues that the responsibility to mitigate a disease that we are the cause of is not sensitive to whether the medical conditions at stake are suffered by foreigners or by compatriots.

And combining the two we have: “Foreigners’ medical conditions, if social institutions we are materially involved in upholding substantially contribute to the incidence, have greater moral weight for us than compatriots’ medical conditions in whose causation we are not materially involved.”

As an economist, I certainly accept the first thesis, but I don’t necessarily buy the second and the combined. Since when is a country responsible for the well-being of all other countries? We live in a democratic, capitalist nation that rewards hard work, innovation, and production. And the factor that creates this reward is competition. Enterprises compete against each other for greater market share; people compete against each other for better jobs, and countries compete against each other for greater prosperity.

The leap that Pogge takes in concluding that developed countries’ economic institutions are the cause of world poverty baffles me. Because a country’s policies are focused on the interests of that country does not mean that they are causing harm to other countries (unless of course those policies are war and violence on other countries).

Is Pogge really saying that the countries that lose (the countries that employ less successful economic and political systems) are entitled to aid from wealthy countries because the wealthy countries are the cause of their poverty? It seems to me that Pogge is almost in favor of a socialist world.

While I’m in favor of a prosperous and developed world, and while I’m still torn on the healthcare and distributive justice issue in general, I think Pogge is taking it too far. My argument may seem a little cold-hearted, but, like I said, this is coming from an econ major. I’m open to attacks.

File Insurance claims or "claims of justice"

Fundamental human rights, Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. One can define them however they wish. Some interpret this to say if something requires action on the part of others it can’t be right. Both Daniels and Sreenivasan are not proponents of radical libertarianism because both hold an allotment of tax money should be devoted to healthcare. The collection of tax money itself is an infringement on one’s liberty to choose how he spends his money. So there difference is in how that money is spent.
A recent news story involving Nataline Sarkisyan is one to ponder. At 17 she suffered from Leukemia and after a bone marrow transplant was unsuccessful she was in need of a liver. The trouble was not that there were no livers available or they didn’t have insurance the problem was that the insurance company, Cigna, refused to cover the transplant calling it experimental and investigational. Although liver transplants are one of the most common transplants in the United States she died waiting. So, how would she have been helped by living in a land of equal educational and workforce opportunity? Those points are of no value to her if she wont get to experience them or have children that will. I know by making healthcare universal there are increased wait times to see a doctor but do they outnumber the deaths from insurance denials or conditions treatable with preventative medicine combined? To do anything except provide universal healthcare is as Daniels said “the ambulance that waits at the bottom of the cliff”. Privately owned and administered healthcare is driven by profit not fundamental human anything! So the illusion that one is more liberal in their right to choose a healthcare company is just that, an illusion. Insurance companies are not required nor do they desire to work for your best interest the goal is profit. Like the Sarkisyan family you may find yourself less autonomous than ever allowable under a well run universal healthcare system.
Why should healthcare be so different from emergency medical services and fire protection? We unquestionably invest in those institutions which preserve our health. From behind the veil of ignorance Daniels points out we would choose to provide healthcare for everyone even if it limits our ability to spend our money the way we choose. From behind the veil of ignorance one would also be a supporter of reducing society’s economical gap. So the choice lies in which is more concrete, which is doable in the context of modern times. To devote money to equalizing the distribution of income, education and jobs it a bit more complex and I would say just as bit as expensive to accomplish correctly. For instance, to bring public education to the level offered by private schools, how much money would that cost? And are we then all going to support affirmative action because we want workplace balanced. Seems to me making healthcare available to everyone is the first step in improving our country’s overall wellbeing. Then, if this is indeed the greatest country on earth, the other social problems should be addressed. As other countries have made little progress in closing the gap in health by providing universal healthcare perhaps if the US finds an effective and durable way to implement it we can become their model.
Although Sreenivasan's article is titled "opportunity is not the key" both authors suggest a fair share to opportunity only in different ways. It's just that Daniels has a solution that has the potential to make the most immediate difference.